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Humor: MSDN Subscription Pricing - Decisions, Decisions
Now that Microsoft has announced the pricing for it's Visual Studio 2005 MSDN suscriptions, many developers are left with some tough decisions to make.
Take a look and decide for yourself with this latest Tales From TheServerSide
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Message #182959
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:-)
Pretty clever. It is actually I good question to ask to Microsoft (or we should call them now MACROsoft). Where in the right mind they comeout with this prices. I think the Enemy is working on Microsoft. If in US, I have to sell a kidnney to buy VSTSE 2005, in other countrys they have to sell both kidnney's and the Kids too.
Good Humor.
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Message #183011
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perhaps msft wants us to look at sharp ide+open source add-on's
Hmm, even for a small team of 8-9 people, that's an additional 40K+ per year ( 1 Team Suite 10939/- + 8 architect/developer tester @ 5469/- each )
I doubt the outsourcing teams will bill for the additional licenses cost to support the msft apps
result = Viva la outsourcing
Perhaps i should start looking for that apartment in bangalore after all
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Message #183027
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Conclusion: VS 2005 makes development expensive.
I must admit that Visual Studio is probably the best IDE in available. But if the price goes up (as in this case), people would have no other choice than to go for other software (10k is highly expensive). It will be very hard for independent consultants and small companies to afford it.
I always dreamed that VS 2005 will reduce the development timeframe, thereby reducing the cost of development. I told many people that VS 2005 will make everything faster saving $$$$$$. But it IDE itself costs 10k, i think i got no choice than to go for someother IDE or start contributing towards some open source IDE. Yes, Microsoft might argue that bigger companies might be able to afford it. But the fact is that i work in a one of the fortune 100 companies and getting a product for $200 just takes an year or more, meanwhile develops look for someother alternatives, leading to open source. I personally see microsoft is major competitor for open source softwares, it should maintain its position.
Conclusion:
The Microsoft VS 2005 Advertisement that should say
VS 2005 makes development faster, but you can't afford that speed.
VS 2005 is purchasable only by Bill Gates.
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Message #183057
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Looks like a market opportunity to me
Let's hope companies like IntelliJ can get their .NET IDEs out in time; price them sensibly, and see the money come rolling in. MS are charging outrageous prices for VS!
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Message #183073
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Killing the cash cow
I remember being at the announcement of the first MSDN Subscriptions and someone from MSUK said that they had wanted to charge $10K for the Universal, but wiser heads prevailed at the time.
All this will do is increase the momentum behind open source offerings and 3rd party offerings and undermine the headway .NET is struggling to get.
Some heads should roll at MS for this one
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Message #183324
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How about comparing apples and apples?
Visual Studio's price really hasn't changed, so you're not really talking about an IDE cost.
Team Systems is equivalent to Visual Studio + LoadRunner + + Perforce + Jira + Confluence.
If you ignore the enterprise grade (and complex) change management, load testing, bug tracking, and project management components of Team System, then it does seem outrageous.
And further, you're complaining about list price. And even our small 7 person shop won't pay that.
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Message #188842
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Not so bad
It's my understanding that the Universal subscription with the Professional level is going down a couple hundred bucks. Sure, there are some nice architechtural, profiling and debugging tools in The Suite, but I think most of the small shops and independent developers out there can live with either the base model or one of Team version for exactly what we're paying for now. It's still a better tool than what we have today. Personally, I'm going to save $200 by stepping down to the Pro version.
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