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Python joins the CLR

Posted by: Ted Neward on July 29, 2004 DIGG
Noted languages developer Jim Hugunin has released version 0.6 of IronPython, an open-source (licensed under the Common Public License) CLR implementation of the Python programming language, even as he joins the CLR team at Microsoft.

Hugunin is probably best well-known for his work in implementing the AspectJ programming language while working for the Xerox PARC research center. He also recently published a paper to the Web (for PyCon 2004) on his experiences implementing Python for the CLR, noting that the performance of the implementation was surprisingly good:
Unfortunately, as I carried out my experiments I found the CLR to be a surprisingly good target for dynamic languages, or at least for the highly dynamic specific case of Python. This was unfortunate because it meant that instead of writing a short pithy paper I had to build a full Python implementation for this new platform to see if there would be any hidden traps along the way. Because performance is such a dominant question for Python on the CLR, the rest of this paper focuses entirely on performance issues and measurements.
For more, read IronPython: A fast Python implementation for .NET and Mono, and see Jason Zander's weblog for the announcement of Jim's acceptance onto the CLR team at Microsoft. For more information on IronPython, see the IronPython home page.
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Great stuff

Posted by: Dion Almaer on July 29, 2004 in response to Message #132134
This is great. Yet again showing Microsoft seeing talent and grabbing it for themselves.

I think that there is a LOT of room for dynamic languages like this in our dev world. For so many tasks it is painful to have to use anything else IMO ;)

Dion

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IronPython a huge win

Posted by: John Tobler on July 29, 2004 in response to Message #132134
IronPython is a huge win for the CLR; Jim is a huge win for the CLR Team. Jim is one of the critical few who refuses to accept "can't" as a first answer to anything. People said Aspects (AOP) couldn't be done for Java, so Jim created AspectJ. People said Python couldn't be written to compile to the JVM, so Jim created Jython--now immensely useful to both the Python and Java communities. Recently, people said you couldn't force-fit a dynamic scripting language like Python onto the existing .NET CLR, so Jim created IronPython. This man is one remarkable individual!

John Tobler
http://weblogs.asp.net/jtobler/

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Jim genie

Posted by: Mik Kersten on July 29, 2004 in response to Message #132134
Jim and I worked on AspectJ together at PARC. I learned an enormous amount from his amazingly pragmatic and effective approach to extending existing platforms to support cool technologies. Simply put, Jim is one of the best programming language implementers in the world. I feel very privileged to have been infected by his aesthetic, and sometimes almost notice a little Jim genie pop up beside my head whenever I get stuck on a hard problem...

Jim, we will miss you on the AspectJ team, and wish you the best at Microsoft! A lot of benefit will come from better integration of dynamic languages in the runtime, and I'm looking forward to thinking about the implications that this has for IDE support :)

 
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